There has been research suggesting that the vagus nerve might carry serotonin from the gut to the brain: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-athletes-way/201... I'd note that this is a five year old article and I haven't heard of any followups. And the article itself may be misinterpreting the underlying actual research, which suggests that it's more about SSRIs: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-50807-8 Still, I thought it was worth mentioning.
Oral selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors activate vagus nerve dependent gut-brain signalling
Karen-Anne McVey Neufeld, John Bienenstock, Aadil Bharwani
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Kevin Champagne-Jorgensen, YuKang Mao, Christine West, Yunpeng Liu, Michael G. Surette, Wolfgang Kunze, Paul Forsythe
2019 · Scientific Reports
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Abstract The vagus nerve can transmit signals to the brain resulting in a reduction in depressive behavior as evidenced by the long-term beneficial effects of electrical stimulation of the vagus in patients with intractable depression. The vagus is the major neural connection between gut and brain, and we have previously shown that ingestion of beneficial bacteria modulates behaviour and brain neurochemistry via this pathway. Given the high levels of serotonin in the gut, we considered if gut-brain signaling, and specifically the vagal pathway, might contribute to the therapeutic effect of oral selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI). Mesenteric nerve recordings were conducted in mice after treatment with SSRI to ascertain if this class of drugs resulted in increased vagal excitability. Patch clamp recordings of enteric neurons were carried out to measure activity of primary afferent neurons in the gut in response to SSRI and to assess the importance of gut epithelium in transducing signal. The tail suspension test (TST) was used following 14d feeding of SSRI in vagotomised and surgical sham mice to measure depressive-like behaviour. Brain mRNA expression was examined via PCR and the intestinal microbiome was assessed. Mesenteric nerve recordings in BALB/c mice demonstrated that oral treatment with SSRI leads to a significant increase in vagal activity. This effect was not observed in mice treated with a representative noradrenaline-dopamine reuptake inhibitor. It is known that signals from the gut can be transmitted to the vagus via the enteric nervous system. Exposure of the gut to SSRI increased the excitability of intrinsic primary afferent neurons in the myenteric plexus, through an intestinal epithelium dependent mechanism, and alpha-diversity of gut microbiota was altered. Critically, blocking vagal signaling from gut to brain, via subdiaphragmatic vagotomy, abolished the antidepressive effects of oral SSRI treatment as determined by the tail suspension test. This work suggests that vagus nerve dependent gut-brain signaling contributes to the effects of oral SSRI and further, highlights the potential for pharmacological approaches to treatment of mood disorders that focus on vagal stimulation and may not even require therapeutic agents to enter the circulation.
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Not just that. In mice, SSRIs stop having any anti-depressant effects if the vagus nerve is severed: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-50807-8 So they also seem to be effective via the enteric nervous system!
I've read some studies that suggest that the gut microbiome can influence mood and behavior through the vagus nerve, which connects the gut and the brain. For example, this[1] study showed that mice fed with a probiotic bacteria had lower depressive and anxious behaviors than mice whose vagus nerve was cut. Another study[2] showed that oral treatment with antidepressants altered the gut microbiome and increased vagal activity in rats, and that blocking the vagus nerve abolished the antidepressive effects. These studies imply that the gut-brain axis is more complex than just diet and microbiome diversity. Maybe there are other factors that mediate the effects of fat, protein and carbohydrates on mood and mental health. What do you think? [1] https://medium.com/microbial-instincts/how-gut-microbes-talk... [2] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-50807-8
SSRIs appear to work through the vagus nerve in a similar way to psychobiotics. Their direct effects on neurotransmitters are probably an unwanted side-effect: Oral selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors activate vagus nerve dependent gut-brain signalling (2019): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-50807-8 Identification of SSRI-evoked antidepressant sensory signals by decoding vagus nerve activity (2021): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-00615-w
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