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Harnessing the Universal Geometry of Embeddings

Rishi Jha, Collin Zhang, Vitaly Shmatikov, John X. Morris

2025 · arXiv

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We introduce the first method for translating text embeddings from one vector space to another without any paired data, encoders, or predefined sets of matches. Our unsupervised approach translates any embedding to and from a universal latent representation (i.e., a universal semantic structure conjectured by the Platonic Representation Hypothesis). Our translations achieve high cosine similarity across model pairs with different architectures, parameter counts, and training datasets. The ability to translate unknown embeddings into a different space while preserving their geometry has serious implications for the security of vector databases. An adversary with access only to embedding vectors can extract sensitive information about the underlying documents, sufficient for classification and attribute inference.

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ainch
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Thank you for expanding! I come from more of an ML background so still learning a lot on these topics: Agreed that the neocortex uses fewer layers because of looping - I also suspect it's partly because neurons are more complex than the neurons used in ANNs, so in principle they should be capable of more sophisticated computation in a single forward pass (especially considering that handling multiple neurotransmitters could mean superposed functions). The point about there being one correct way to model something does seem backed up by the Platonic Representation hypothesis (https://arxiv.org/pdf/2405.07987). I've even seem some work that shows you can find a bijective…
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map between the latent spaces of different transformers (https://arxiv.org/pdf/2505.12540). Your point about Finsler spaces is fascinating - I hadn't come across the term before. It'd be interesting to see if there's work that specifically allows latents to exhibit that kind of directional metric behaviour, and whether that improves generalisation or something. On the entire brain being dedicated to prediction, that's more of a high-level comment. I was thinking of work like Andy Clark on predictive processing, which suggests that even regions of the brain which we think of as receptive (eg. the visual cortex) may be implementing a generative/predictive model which is corrected by sensory input.
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https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.12540 https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.07987 These, other papers, and the lottery ticket phenomenon; what it boils down to is that any neural network like system which encodes some common mapping of a phenomenon in the context of the world - not necessarily a world model, but some "real-world thing" - will tend to map to a limited number of permutations of some archetypal representation, which will resemble other mappings of the same thing. The lottery ticket phenomenon is a bit like the birthday paradox; there will be some number of structures in a large, random initialization of neural network weights that coincide with one or more archetypal mappings of complex objects. Some sub-networks are also useful mappings to features of one or more complex objects, which makes learning hierarchical nested networks of feature mappings easier; it's also why interpretability is so damned difficult.
mnky9800n
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If you can access a models emebeddings then it is possible to retrieve what it knows using a model you have trained https://arxiv.org/html/2505.12540v2
AIorNot
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Interesting - I wonder if this ties into the Platonic Space Hypothesis recently being championed by computational biologist Mike Levin E.g https://youtu.be/Qp0rCU49lMs?si=UXbSBD3Xxpy9e3uY https://thoughtforms.life/symposium-on-the-platonic-space/ e.g see this paper on Universal Embeddings https://arxiv.org/html/2505.12540v2 "The Platonic Representation Hypothesis [17] conjectures that all image models of sufficient size have the same latent representation. We propose a stronger, constructive version of this hypothesis for text models: the universal latent structure of text representations can be learned and, furthermore, harnessed to translate representations from one…
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space to another without any paired data or encoders. In this work, we show that the Strong Platonic Representation Hypothesis holds in practice. Given unpaired examples of embeddings from two models with different architectures and training data, our method learns a latent representation in which the embeddings are almost identical" Also from the OP's Paper we see this on statement: "Why do these universal subspaces emerge? While the precise mechanisms driving this phenomenon remain an open area of investigation, several theoretical factors likely contribute to the emergence of these shared structures. First, neural networks are known to exhibit a spectral bias toward low frequency functions, creating a polynomial decay in eigenvalues that concentrates learning dynamics into a small number of dominant directions (Belfer et al., 2024; Bietti et al., 2019). Second, modern architectures impose strong inductive biases that constrain the solution space: convolutional structures inherently favor local, Gabor-like patterns (Krizhevsky et al., 2012; Guth et al., 2024), while attention mechanisms prioritize recurring relational circuits (Olah et al., 2020; Chughtai et al., 2023). Third, the ubiquity of gradient-based optimization – governed by kernels that are largely invariant to task specifics in the infinite-width limit (Jacot et al., 2018) – inherently prefers smooth solutions, channeling diverse learning trajectories toward shared geometric manifolds (Garipov et al., 2018). If these hypotheses hold, the universal subspace likely captures fundamental computational patterns that transcend specific tasks, potentially explaining the efficacy of transfer learning and why diverse problems often benefit from similar architectural modifications."

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