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Users prefer Guetzli JPEG over same-sized libjpeg

Jyrki Alakuijala, Robert Obryk, Zoltan Szabadka, Jan Wassenberg

2017 · arXiv

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We report on pairwise comparisons by human raters of JPEG images from libjpeg and our new Guetzli encoder. Although both files are size-matched, 75% of ratings are in favor of Guetzli. This implies the Butteraugli psychovisual image similarity metric which guides Guetzli is reasonably close to human perception at high quality levels. We provide access to the raw ratings and source images for further analysis and study.

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vladdanilov
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There are glaring optimization issues. Over 6MB of those 10MB is just one bloated photo [1]. It can be compressed down to 1-2MB. Moreover, if it was a proper responsive image, it would not be larger than 100-200 KB for most readers because a good JPEG compressor can pull 2 bits per pixel [2]. Ironically, image optimization apps don't get that much coverage. [1] https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/vikbajaj20... [2] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.04416.pdf
makapuf
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I find this article a bit poor. It basically gives a few data points about the resulting image size for a few quality settings from an unknown source image already compressed in jpeg with unknown quality setting. No example of perceptual quality degradation or screenshots (which would have been useful for a perceptual codec) besides him finding no and another person find very little difference. No comparison to a standard jpeg compressor for the same image / quality. I'm curious : how does guetzli that compare to libjpeg ? libjpeg-turbo ? whatever photoshop is using ?) esp in size for the same quality on your image ? I find the original blog post is better (having links…
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and actual screenshots): https://research.googleblog.com/2017/03/announcing-guetzli-n... the Arxiv paper is much better controlled on how the experiment went, but has few/no figures besides the fact that it's better: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.04416.pdf EDIT : I find this article more complete : https://www.34sp.com/blog/speed-testing-googles-guetzli-jpeg...

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