Wouldn't this process also contribute to climate change by trapping energy on Earth that would have been reflected back into space? Edit: Apparently, yes, current PV solar may also do this: > We found temperatures over a PV plant were regularly 3–4 °C warmer than wildlands at night https://www.nature.com/articles/srep35070 But I suspect/conjecture that turning sunlight directly into heat, then turning some of that heat into electricity, would capture even more heat from sunlight. Because some of the heat in the sphere will re-radiate, but much of it will inevitably be lost to convection and conduction.
The Photovoltaic Heat Island Effect: Larger solar power plants increase local temperatures
Greg A. Barron-Gafford, Rebecca L. Minor, Nathan A. Allen
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Alex D. Cronin, Adria E. Brooks, Mitchell A. Pavao-Zuckerman
2016 · Scientific Reports
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Abstract While photovoltaic (PV) renewable energy production has surged, concerns remain about whether or not PV power plants induce a “heat island” (PVHI) effect, much like the increase in ambient temperatures relative to wildlands generates an Urban Heat Island effect in cities. Transitions to PV plants alter the way that incoming energy is reflected back to the atmosphere or absorbed, stored, and reradiated because PV plants change the albedo, vegetation, and structure of the terrain. Prior work on the PVHI has been mostly theoretical or based upon simulated models. Furthermore, past empirical work has been limited in scope to a single biome. Because there are still large uncertainties surrounding the potential for a PHVI effect, we examined the PVHI empirically with experiments that spanned three biomes. We found temperatures over a PV plant were regularly 3–4 °C warmer than wildlands at night, which is in direct contrast to other studies based on models that suggested that PV systems should decrease ambient temperatures. Deducing the underlying cause and scale of the PVHI effect and identifying mitigation strategies are key in supporting decision-making regarding PV development, particularly in semiarid landscapes, which are among the most likely for large-scale PV installations.
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https://www.nature.com/articles/srep35070 An interesting article on the topic. They measured temperatures over a year at 3 nearby sites (desert, parking lot, PV plant; Fig. 4 shows them on a map).
> Putting solar panels in the desert is good for the environment. This is categorically false. Solar panels actually increase the ambient temperature in the area [0]. Directly under a panel will be cooler, but those areas are 1. Heavily disturbed, with most the native plants an animals destroyed on installation and 2. Small compared to the total affected area. Solar fields take up a large amount of space and installing a new one involves damaging a lot of native landscape. Despite the drawbacks I think that solar is usually quite a bit better on net than the energy it's replacing, but we should still be clear about the costs and drawbacks. [0]https://www.nature.com/articles/srep35070
I've read a few articles that these solar farms are creating their own microclimates, and particularly in already warm areas can have significant impacts to wildlife with the local temperature increasing in the range of 3-4 degrees C: https://www.nature.com/articles/srep35070
OP: bad news for the bees: this Nature study (https://www.nature.com/articles/srep35070 ) suggests that PV fields are actually heat islands worse than parking lots... But these were not necessarily PV plants with flowers growing around them.
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