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Long COVID: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

Hannah E. Davis, Lisa McCorkell, Julia Moore Vogel, Eric J. Topol

2023 · Nature Reviews Microbiology

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swed420
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> What a silly article with zero connection to scientific reality. What a silly comment with zero connection to scientific reality. > Never-ending reinfections were always inevitable when the first carrier left Wuhan, so "manufactured consent" or lack thereof are utterly irrelevant. False. When properly and consistently worn, N95 respirators effectively stop COVID transmission. > It's just another coronavirus much like the others that were already endemic. It very clearly bucks previous trends, considering: 38% had self-reported long covid after 3 infections https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/post-covid-condit... 40% of the undergrad students reported brain fog…
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due to COVID-19. 37% of the undergraduates exhibited impaired cognition up to 17 months post-infection. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S088915912... https://oem.bmj.com/content/81/9/471 33.6% of healthcare workers have symptoms meeting NICE criteria for long Covid. Only 7.6% have a formal diagnosis 20% of kids (ages 6-11) and 14% of teens have for long covid https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2822770 30% have long covid https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwpc/article/PIIS2666-6... 36% had long covid https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.01.01.24319384v... There's a load of studies that something like 90% of people with long covid don't get better years later. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7... https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-29513-z https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(23)00760-9/ful... https://www.bmj.com/content/381/bmj-2022-074425 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0... https://www.nature.com/articles/s43856-024-00657-x https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5... https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanam/article/PIIS2667-19... A common type of long covid is myalgic encephalomyelitis which is generally lifelong: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15699087/ Here's two reviews papers about long covid which both say that common long covid subtypes are generally lifelong https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03173-6 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-022-00846-2
throwaway346434
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Ah, facts and accurate terminology are pesky. I wonder if the author of the article: - Is a doctor - With a PhD ontop of the medical degree - Who works in an ER setting - and is able to specifically know and understand what the word pandemic means ... In the context of a blog post about ER throughput. Let me just check for a second and, oh look at that: the author is all of those four points. COVID infected huge numbers of people, and variants of it continue to reinfect. Long term problems exist in a significant number of people - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-022-00846-2 COVID has not magically vanished:…
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https://www.idsociety.org/covid-19-real-time-learning-networ... It is very much still a pandemic, if for some reason you do not believe that. Otherwise I have to assume you are rejecting the entire article because you do agree it's still a pandemic, but for some reason can't picture why long term effects of COVID may have a relationship to hospital presentations and complexity of cases.
thenerdhead
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Here's 4.5 hours of content from various experts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=278vwGkFXRM There's many more of these types of videos by the NIH and other large groups too. There are also reviews here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-022-00846-2 Short answer is...we somewhat have hypotheses around the cause. We don't know much about the lasting damage yet. Many folks who have long covid do not have any organ damage from acute infection. But the big question is if a persistent infection causes damage over the duration.
quenched
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While long Covid is an encompassing term, there is symptom overlap between long COVID and ME/CFS. Around 50% of people with long COVID meet the criteria for a diagnosis of ME/CFS. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-023-00904-7 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-022-00846-2 https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fneur.2023.1090... Mild ME/CFS is usually associated with around 50% reduction in daily functioning. Moderate will usually lead to people being housebound and intermittently bed-bound. Severe and very severe are associated with a level of suffering that is hard to imagine possible. An example of someone becoming severe is PhysicsGirl - Dianna…
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Cowern. https://youtu.be/vydgkCCXbTA The associated severe dysautonomia means that people are unable to sit or stand and often they can not eat or digest. They may require intravenous nutrition. Regrettably there are cases where the disease has not been treated appropriately and young people have died as a result. A recent example is Maeve Boothby-O'Neill and her father Sean O'Neill wrote in The Times with an interview with Maeve's Mother by Dr David Tuller. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/my-daughter-couldnt-be-sa... https://www.codastory.com/waronscience/chronic-fatigue-syndr...
Animats
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The epidemic is not over. In a few years, we may look at Biden's announcing that COVID was over like we now look at Bush's "Mission Accomplished" banner. Denial is a big problem here. Here's a recent overview article in Nature on long COVID: "At least 65 million individuals around the world have long COVID, based on a conservative estimated incidence of 10% of infected people and more than 651 million documented COVID-19 cases worldwide1; the number is likely much higher due to many undocumented cases. The incidence is estimated at 10–30% of non-hospitalized cases, 50–70% of hospitalized cases, and 10–12% of vaccinated cases." "Hundreds of biomedical findings have been…
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documented, with many patients experiencing dozens of symptoms across multiple organ systems. Long COVID encompasses multiple adverse outcomes, with common new-onset conditions including cardiovascular, thrombotic and cerebrovascular disease, type 2 diabetes, myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) and dysautonomia, especially postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS). Symptoms can last for years, and particularly in cases of new-onset ME/CFS and dysautonomia are expected to be lifelong. With significant proportions of individuals with long COVID unable to return to work, the scale of newly disabled individuals is contributing to labour shortages. There are currently no validated effective treatments." There's now a working definition of the symptoms that distinguish long COVID.[2] Imaging studies are matching up heart, lung, and brain damage with reported symptoms. It's becoming clearer what the damage is, and, over time, what heals and what doesn't. People can get COVID over and over, sometimes with cumulative damage. Immunity from both vaccines and infections is only 3-18 months. What is this going to look like in five years? And companies want to cram people into bullpens again. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-022-00846-2 [2] https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-06-02/how-comm...
deathanatos
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Long COVID, from what I can tell / have read, is acknowledged by research[1][2]. The mechanism of it, and what is the best treatment for the people suffering from it, I think, are still the subject of ongoing research. [1]: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/... [2]: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-022-00846-2 (etc.; there are numerous studies that are not hard to find?)
andric
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Both AIDS and Long COVID are post-viral, multi-organ, chronic conditions that dysregulate the immune system, through many of the same mechanisms [0]. They are also conditions that severely affects the quality of life of those who are afflicted, increasing the risk of severe life-threatening illnesses [1]. Similar to the early years of the AIDS pandemic (which, I might add, is still ongoing), the harms of Long COVID are not widely understood or acknowledged in clinical practice or among the general population. [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9608044/ [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-022-00846-2
Animats
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- People with LC usually have normal everything. Blood work, EKG, spirometery, sleep study, whatever. Everything comes back fine. Not everything.[1][2][3] Brain damage is showing up in MRI scans. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-022-00846-2 [2] https://neurosciencenews.com/post-covid-brain-21904/ [3] https://nnn.ng/study-finds-altered-brain-function-in-long-co...
quenched
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This is very sad to see and I wish Dianna and her family the very best for her recovery. I'm into year three of long COVID (ME/CFS) and was fortunate to not reach this level of severity, and to have improved slowly with time to mostly housebound rather than bedbound, but it is a remarkable disease. The name does it little justice, and fatigue - while certainly pathological and disabling - is not the primary feature. The disease appears unique in terms of an abnormal response to exertion. This has been characterised via two-day cardiopulmonary exercise testing. Healthy controls and even those with other severely limiting diseases will show improvement on day 2, but ME/CFS…
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uniquely shows a reduction on the second day. Other key features are orthostatic intolerance with demonstration of reduction in cerebral blood flow in the majority on sitting/standing. Neurological symptoms including extreme sensitivity to light and sound explain her blindfold and ear protectors. Many have fluctuating cognitive slowing ("brain fog"). New insights into the metabolic derangements are being gained. Recently[1] evaluation of urine metabolomics demonstrated that healthy sedentary controls excrete many metabolites at 4 and 24 hours following an exercise challenge, while ME/CFS patients do not. Apart from the devastating effects on patients and the economic impacts of losing so many from the workforce[2], I believe that understanding the immune and metabolic derangements underlying this condition will lead to major insights across many health domains. [1] https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/24/4/3685 [2] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-022-00846-2

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