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Modelling the recent common ancestry of all living humans

Douglas L. T. Rohde, Steve Olson, Joseph T. Chang

2004 · Nature

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Given how common the practice of slavery was in centuries and millennia past, and how recently the last living ancestor of all now-living humans plausibly walked the earth ( https://www.nature.com/articles/nature02842 ), it is trivial to argue that ~99.9% of now-living humans had many slave-owning direct ancestors. (And that any exceptions would both occur in tiny / very isolated / marginalized minority populations, and be utterly unverifiable.) So - why the current obsession with the subject? My sense is that identifying & denouncing anything tied to slavery is a current fad among social groups who waste far too much time practicing & posturing over ideology. And, with how sh*tty the future is looking for the younger generations now, anything that lets them denounce older people is probably extra-attractive.
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Yeah, unless I am missing something, this is way off: both Y-chromosomal Adam and Mitochondrial Eve are estimated to be from >> 100K years ago. > As of 2013, estimates for the age Y-MRCA are subject to substantial uncertainty, with a wide range of times from 180,000 to 580,000 years ago (with an estimated age of between 120,000 and 156,000 years ago, roughly consistent with the estimate for mt-MRCA.) * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve [EDIT] Apparently I misunderstood how things work. mt-Eve is not necessarily the MRCA for all living…
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humans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve#Not_the_most... This paper from 2004 uses Monte Carlo simulation to estimate that the MRCA for all humans may have occurred in the last 5K years: https://www.nature.com/articles/nature02842 This Wikipedia article explains how that might be the case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_recent_common_ancestor#TM...
xamuel
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Not sure what you mean exactly by "generative models" but it reminds me of Rohde et al 2004 (https://www.nature.com/articles/nature02842) which is all about modelling this sort of thing. In fact, some of the results of Rohde's paper are quantitative things which Rohde et al discovered by simulation and which my paper provides theoretical explanation for (see my paper's Proposition 6 and the last sentence of the abstract of Rohde et al).

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